{"id":3869,"date":"2013-05-01T04:03:05","date_gmt":"2013-05-01T11:03:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/?p=3869"},"modified":"2016-01-10T13:34:21","modified_gmt":"2016-01-10T20:34:21","slug":"fight-fight-fight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/?p=3869","title":{"rendered":"Fight Fight Fight"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been drawing fight scenes more than usual recently &#8211;\u00a0what action comic is complete without a few of them? &#8211; which got me thinking about some of my favorite comic book brawls. There are hundreds of superhero fights that I can recall quicker than people&#8217;s birthdays or important passwords and forgive me if I&#8217;m wrong, but I bet your memory&#8217;s probably \u00a0identical to mine. From the banal and obligatory to the inspired and well crafted, we&#8217;ve all seen a wide range of slugfests.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/SD.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4153\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/SD.jpg\" alt=\"SD\" width=\"634\" height=\"467\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/SD.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/SD-300x220.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Is it the choreography in service of mayhem? Is it an appreciation for impossible anatomy? Is it that smattering of blood on the corner of a mouth? \u00a0Is it not worth examining at all? Too late!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4154\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-1.jpg\" alt=\"Kieron Dwyer 1\" width=\"634\" height=\"966\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-1.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-1-196x300.jpg 196w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.comics.org\/issue\/44959\/cover\/4\/\"><em>Captain America #345<\/em><\/a> by <strong>Mark Gruendwald, Kieron Dwyer <\/strong>and<strong> Al Milgrom.<\/strong>\u00a0I have a soft spot for the Gruenwald-era <em>Captain America<\/em>. The <strong>Ron Lim<\/strong> drawn issues are great, especially <em>Streets of Poison<\/em>\u00a0where Cap absorbs a warehouse worth of cocaine &amp; gives Daredevil <a href=\"http:\/\/farm1.staticflickr.com\/35\/73597632_110b95d44b_z.jpg\">a beatdown<\/a>, but the Dwyer issues are in a class by themselves (he had been drawing comics for about a year by the time this issue came out).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4155\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-2.jpg\" alt=\"Kieron Dwyer 2\" width=\"634\" height=\"967\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-2.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Kieron-Dwyer-2-196x300.jpg 196w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This Code-approved scene is\u00a0half shoot out, half hands-on massacre. It was a 75 cent instant\u00a0classic.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.comics.org\/issue\/47550\/cover\/4\/\"><em>Legion of Super-Heroes #4<\/em><\/a> by<strong> Keith Giffen, Tom &amp; Mary Bierbaum <\/strong>and<strong> Al Gordon.\u00a0<\/strong>This is about as abstract as a cosmic battle is ever going to be in a DC comic, but what makes it awesome is that it&#8217;s a fight between Mon-El (red, caped) and the Time Trapper (see: all that sand), meaning he&#8217;s fighting basically the concept of time itself (as well as the Superman editorial offices of &#8217;90).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Keith-Giffen.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4156\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Keith-Giffen.jpg\" alt=\"Keith Giffen\" width=\"634\" height=\"711\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Keith-Giffen.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Keith-Giffen-267x300.jpg 267w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I used to dislike the impenetrability of these\u00a0<em>Legion<\/em>\u00a0comics. These days, I love it, especially if they were drawn by Giffen.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.comics.org\/issue\/47549\/cover\/4\/\">Justice League Europe #11<\/a><\/em> by <strong>William Messner -Loebs <\/strong>and<strong> Bart Sears<\/strong> (plotted by Giffen same month as the Legion issue up there&#8230; <em>wow!<\/em>)<strong>.<\/strong> This fight&#8217;s pretty brief, which should appease all those whiners who begin their sentences with &#8220;In real life, a fight wouldn&#8217;t last as long as&#8211;&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>In real life!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bart-Sears.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4157\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bart-Sears.jpg\" alt=\"Bart Sears\" width=\"634\" height=\"920\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bart-Sears.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Bart-Sears-206x300.jpg 206w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Anyway, you wanna talk about brief? How about <em>&#8220;One punch!&#8221;<\/em> (If you got that reference, congratulations\/shame on you).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.comics.org\/issue\/65662\/cover\/4\/\"><em>Orion #5<\/em><\/a> by <strong>Walter Simonson.<\/strong>\u00a0This is an All-Fight issue between father and son, Orion and Darkseid.\u00a0It&#8217;s an incredibly paced fight, this one. I&#8217;ll say it here:\u00a0<em>Orion<\/em>\u00a0contains many instances of innovative action-storytelling. It&#8217;s some of Simonson&#8217;s best work, and his love for the material only strengthens it. Toward the end of the run it gets a little wonky (when he has to draw regular people eating hot dogs or walking), but the majority of this run is page for page forward-looking superhero comics.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Simonson.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4158\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Simonson.jpg\" alt=\"Simonson\" width=\"634\" height=\"997\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Simonson.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Simonson-190x300.jpg 190w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>No banter, plenty of speed lines. Is speed line porn a thing?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.comics.org\/issue\/17887\/cover\/4\/\"><em>Amazing Spider-Man #4<\/em><\/a> by\u00a0<strong>Stan Lee <\/strong>and<strong> God Himself.<\/strong> Not only is this one of the best fights ever, it&#8217;s the quintessential Spider-Man story. It has all the staples: teen angst, young romance, awesome villain, humiliation during battle, worried aunt, hateful boss, public ridicule, wisecracks, isolation. You really don&#8217;t need to go further than this one issue; it goes off the rails after this.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Ditko-page.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4159\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Ditko-page.jpg\" alt=\"Ditko page\" width=\"634\" height=\"965\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Ditko-page.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Ditko-page-197x300.jpg 197w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Okay. <strong>Steve Ditko<\/strong>. There, I said it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.comics.org\/issue\/37788\/cover\/4\/\"><em>The Uncanny X-men #173<\/em><\/a> by <strong>Chris Claremont, Paul Smith<\/strong> and<strong> Bob Wiacek.\u00a0<\/strong>Ah, the Smith run on the X-men, a highlight for many X-fans. His trajectory is interesting because, not unlike Dwyer, it was during Smith&#8217;s first year when he landed the gig that defined his career. He rocketed into fandom heights almost immediately, rode the X-wave for a year, then came close to burning out. This issue may be the apex of that initial run, but definitely the one that personally influenced me.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4160\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-1.jpg\" alt=\"Paul Smith 1\" width=\"634\" height=\"942\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-1.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-1-201x300.jpg 201w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I recently paid homage to this widescreen battle in a recent issue of <em>Copra <\/em>(the one where they also go to Tokyo), and although Smith was carrying over the style set forth by <strong>Frank Miller<\/strong> (in the <em>Wolverine<\/em> mini-series tied to this issue), it was this story that made an impression on me.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4161\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-2.jpg\" alt=\"Paul Smith 2\" width=\"634\" height=\"942\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-2.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Paul-Smith-2-201x300.jpg 201w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div>Speaking of things I&#8217;ve recently tried to pull off, how about battle royal match-type of fights? I can&#8217;t think of any standout examples with a huge cast of characters (well,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/s1128.photobucket.com\/user\/ilovecomiccovers\/media\/OneMomentinTimeJLI13-SuicideSquad13.jpg.html\">this milestone<\/a>\u00a0goes without saying). You know what?\u00a0I don&#8217;t even wanna know. Somebody&#8217;s bound to say\u00a0<em>Secret Wars<\/em>\u00a0and I&#8217;m not ready to deal with their warped sense of history or taste.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/BS.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4162\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/BS.jpg\" alt=\"BS\" width=\"288\" height=\"641\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Isn&#8217;t it weird when an artist actaully knows some martial arts and then draws a step-by-step of what he knows but passes it off as a narrative? The <strong>O&#8217;Neil\/Cowan<\/strong> <em>Question<\/em> had a lot of that. So did <strong>Mike Baron<\/strong> comics. \u00a0I get trying to be faithful to the art form of self defense, but sometimes I just want a clumsy pair of fists to operatically connect with someone&#8217;s cheekbone.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Honorable Mention&#8221; and &#8220;Runner Up&#8221; sounds wrong, so I&#8217;ll sidestep my personal Top Fight list to admit that, undeniably, the master of the superhero fight scene is <strong>Jack Kirby<\/strong> (<a href=\"http:\/\/kirbymuseum.org\/blogs\/kinetics\/2011\/03\/\">oh, yes he is<\/a>). <strong>Frank Miller<\/strong> is up there, especially when he&#8217;s the one drawing it (<a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-4s324G5gYhI\/T6FX8YJDcAI\/AAAAAAAAAUg\/oevVR3xYNIw\/s1600\/daredevil-172.jpg\">don&#8217;t deny it, you<\/a>). <strong>Erik Larsen<\/strong> has cornered the market on big hands that punch things (<a href=\"http:\/\/goodcomics.comicbookresources.com\/2014\/11\/24\/year-of-the-artist-day-328-erik-larsen-part-5-savage-dragon-199\/\">tell me I&#8217;m wrong<\/a>). <strong>Frank Quietly&#8217;s<\/strong> <em>Authority<\/em> had epically drawn moments of violence (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.zonanegativa.com\/imagenes\/2011\/05\/0373.jpg\">okay, don&#8217;t tell me<\/a>). Recently, <strong>James Harren<\/strong> has produced some of the best tighten-up-release carnage I&#8217;ve seen since <em>Berserk (<a href=\"http:\/\/4thletter.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/\/harren-longdeath-01.png\">stop it<\/a>)<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>And hey, you know I&#8217;m talking exclusively about\u00a0American mainstream comics, right? I know all about some of the very best outside of that:<strong> Chester Gould&#8217;s<\/strong> <em>Dick Tracy. <\/em><strong>Johnny Ryan&#8217;s<\/strong><em> Prison Pit.<\/em> The comics of\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.savagecritic.com\/reviews\/my-life-is-choked-with-comics-14-jademan-comics\/\">Wong Yuk-long<\/a><\/strong>. These are all works of beauty, just like the list I laid out. Every knuckle, every grimace, every drop of blood, all modest examples as to why comic book fighting is so present, so central to the landscape. It represents what comics are so impossibly good at being, all in one shot: awkward and graceful and ridiculous.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/KD.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4163\" src=\"http:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/KD.jpg\" alt=\"KD\" width=\"634\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/KD.jpg 634w, https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/KD-281x300.jpg 281w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 634px) 100vw, 634px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Fiffe<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been drawing fight scenes more than usual recently &#8211;\u00a0what action comic is complete without a few of them? &#8211; which got me thinking about some of my favorite comic book brawls. There are hundreds of superhero fights that I can recall quicker than people&#8217;s birthdays or important passwords and forgive me if I&#8217;m wrong, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[30],"tags":[135,136,134,138,137,49,19,33],"class_list":["post-3869","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-discussion","tag-bart-sears","tag-keith-giffen","tag-kieron-dwyer","tag-mark-gruenwald","tag-paul-smith","tag-steve-ditko","tag-superheroes","tag-walt-simonson"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3869","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3869"}],"version-history":[{"count":38,"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3869\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6422,"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3869\/revisions\/6422"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3869"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3869"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/michelfiffe.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3869"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}